Originally posted by [i]胡拉[/i] at 2008-2-5 12:38 AM:

这句话很对 ： 老黑、老西、老中、老印等等，都是拴在一根绳子上的不同种类的蚂蚱，这跟绳子
名叫“少数族裔”。

对你个大头鬼。 你要是有孩子准备上大学就不这么天真了。

一帮子永远长不大地理想主义者。

老兄指的是“平权法案”吧，对此我一贯支持，不能让白人和亚裔占据名牌大学。为了追求种族间受教育的平等，修补历史遗留下来的创伤，白人亚裔不得不付出某种牺牲。

许多时候，不平等就是平等。

Originally posted by [i]辛弃甲[/i] at 2008-2-5 11:09:
对你个大头鬼。 你要是有孩子准备上大学就不这么天真了。
一帮子永远长不大地理想主义者。

Originally posted by [i]辛弃甲[/i] at 2008-2-5 04:09 PM:

对你个大头鬼。 你要是有孩子准备上大学就不这么天真了。

这样狭隘还能谈政治？政治不只是计较你的孩子还是我的孩子 .....

你不跟人家帮在一起，你就没戏 ！

Originally posted by [i]胡拉[/i] at 2008-2-6 01:27 AM:

这样狭隘还能谈政治？政治不只是计较你的孩子还是我的孩子 .....

你不跟人家帮在一起，你就没戏 ！

I don't see any beef from Obama yet. All he talks is change-- change to what?
Clinton was saying change, Bush was saying change,everyone was saying change.
I would like to see the difference.

By November, if it's Hilary vs. Rep. I'll probably cast my vote for her. If Obama vs. Rep, I'll have to see who he will face.

Change what? It's obvious. Change the skin color of US president. See this :somad:

Originally posted by [i]辛弃甲[/i] at 2008-2-5 22:09:
I don't see any beef from Obama yet. All he talks is change-- change to what?

美总统初选“超级星期二”渐有结果(BBC)

几个大州同时在"超级星期二"举行初选

美国总统初选“超级星期二”进行得如火如荼，部分东部和中部州已经出现初步统计结果。

目前共和党方面麦凯恩明显领先，而共和党方面希拉里和奥巴马仍然部分上下。

西弗吉尼亚和特拉华州的共和党初选已经完成选票，哈克比和麦凯恩分别赢得这两个州。

而民主党在特拉华的初选也已经完成点票，奥巴马取得胜利。

麦凯恩由于赢得了纽约、新泽西、康涅狄克和特拉华这几个实行“赢者全拿”制度的州的初选，他目前已经取得200多张选举代表票，远远超过对手罗姆尼和哈克比。

麦凯恩除正式在特拉华取胜外，目前在尚未完成点票的亚利桑那、康涅狄克、伊利诺伊、新泽西、纽约以及俄克拉何马领先。

哈克比正式赢得西弗吉尼亚，另外还在阿拉巴马、阿肯色、乔治亚、密苏里、和田纳西领先。

罗姆尼则在科罗拉多、马萨诸塞、明尼苏达、蒙大拿、北达科他领先。

人口最多的加州刚刚结束投票，麦凯恩此前得到加州州长施瓦辛格的支持，如果他赢得加州初选，他势必得到共和党候选人提名。

民主党

民主党方面，奥巴马虽然似乎比希拉里赢得更多的州，但从党代表人数来看，则是希拉里占上风。

奥巴马目前领先的州包括阿拉巴马、科罗拉多、康涅狄克、特拉华、乔治亚、印第安纳、伊利诺伊、堪萨斯、明尼苏达和北达科他。

而希拉里领先的州则有亚利桑那、阿肯色、加州、马萨诸塞、密苏里、新泽西、纽约、俄克拉何马、田纳西和犹他。

由于民主党方面各州普遍采取按照得票比例分配党代表票，因此希拉里和奥巴马目前差距并不大，加州对于二人来说很可能成为关键战场。

虽然目前希拉里在当地领先，但加州刚刚结束投票，目前的结果只是相当初步的统计，随时可能出现变化。

党代表

美国24个州在2月5日举行党内总统候选人初选或党团会议，其中19个州同时举行两党的初选，因此这一天被称为“超级星期二”。

最引人注目的就是在"超级星期二"举行初选投票的包括了几个党代表人数较多的大州。

例如东岸的纽约州（共和党代表101人、民主党代表232人），东北部的伊利诺州（共和党代表57人、民主党代表153人），西岸的加利福尼亚州（共和党代表170人、民主党370人）。

如果要稳操提名之胜券，民主党需要2025张党代表票，共和党则需要1191张党代表票。所以对候选人而言，这些大州就成了必争之地，绝不能放弃。

好在美国人“专业”，撒完就算，不计前嫌。只不过今年的赌局，增加了黑面孔，增加了异性面孔，这是变化和创新......

李安说过一句话——大意是他和主流社会人士除了电影之外，也都接不上腔。原因盖因为没有共同语言。

等有一个黄皮肤的美国总统吧，还得不是老墨老意才行。

That's it?

Tell me if that's the big deal, why the hispanics was not on board for it?
Tell me what's more important: the overall country, or the hypothetic minority interest?

If you really think Obama will help equality and minority interest, then tell me:
Why the hispanics side more with Hilary than Obama, while the younger voters (esp. young white males) sides more with Obama?

The current situation is: in the government, coorporate management, blacks has more than their (population) share of representation, while Asians are way under represented. Do you think Obama will really start the change, or vill be able to change this?

Do you think Obama really cares those Chinamen?
Why Obama won't even bother to answer the questionaries by the 80-20 committee?

I would never go with face value, and I will have to go under the skin and see the substance.

And I don't buy the idea of trading inequality fo some abstract equality, just like I don't belive that kids from Beijing deserve to go to Beida with lower score than kids from Jiangsu or Fujian.

By the way, going with ethenity is just as narrow minded as going with affirmative act.

Dispite all said, I don't mean Obama is a bad guy by any mean. Just that he has not shown enough the quality and maturity to lead this country yet. He needs to wait a few more years.

Originally posted by [i]thesunlover[/i] at 2008-2-6 02:03 PM:
Change what? It's obvious. Change the skin color of US president. See this :somad:

Another significant change is to terminate Bush dynasty and prevent Clinton dynasty from appearing. Clinton was a good president, but we don’t want him to come back. We need a new and fresh face. That's it.

Change for the sake of change?

Originally posted by [i]thesunlover[/i] at 2008-2-6 04:01 PM:
Another significant change is to terminate Bush dynasty and prevent Clinton dynasty from appearing. Clinton was a good president, but we don’t want him to come back. We need a new and fresh face. ..

顶！选总统不是选圣人，而是选能人，制定好政策的人。美国的制度还是有基本保障的，总统的个人品德我以为没有个人能力重要。再说了，Hillary 也没什么品德问题呀。

Originally posted by [i]廖康[/i] at 2008-2-6 09:29 PM:
顶！选总统不是选圣人，而是选能人，制定好政策的人。美国的制度还是有基本保障的，总统的个人品德我以为没有个人能力重要。再说了，Hillary 也没什么品德问题呀。

希拉里尚未组阁，大家海市蜃楼，怎么就能保证她能制定更好的政策？他们生活居高以久，已有16年没有过普通人的生活了。这是整一代人的时间，恐怕不可能有敏感的嗅觉再挑选出合适的民生问题和政策来。

" 他们生活居高以久，已有16年没有过普通人的生活了。"

赞同这句话，他们夫妻高高在上已久，JADED .....
需要新人新面孔，如果希是民主党的候选人，
大概她会输给共和党，因为反对的大有人在 .....

不是谁好谁坏的问题，是个换代问题，接力棒应该交给下一代，
连邓小平都可以做到的事，六十岁是女人的退休年龄 .....

"I would never go with face value, and I will have to go under the skin and see the substance.

And I don't buy the idea of trading inequality fo some abstract equality, just like I don't belive that kids from Beijing deserve to go to Beida with lower score than kids from Jiangsu or Fujian.

By the way, going with ethenity is just as narrow minded as going with affirmative act."

哈哈，同意辛弃甲。

和你们捣乱，我好像最喜欢麦凯恩。为美国能把牢底坐穿的人，没有皮肤薄厚、黑白的问题吧？

:lol::D:laugh: